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[PPH]

[..]Renoise is free, except for the "Render to WAV" feature. If you want to have that one, then you have to buy it.[...]

You forgot the missing ASIO support, which really made me stop trying it...

Well, I guess I forgot because it doesn't affect me. I don't use a MIDI controller, I enter the notes one by one with the computer keyboard. Therefore, I couldn't care less about latency

[DMNXS]

[..]Renoise is free, except for the "Render to WAV" feature. If you want to have that one, then you have to buy it.[...]

You forgot the missing ASIO support, which really made me stop trying it...

Well, I guess I forgot because it doesn't affect me. I don't use a MIDI controller, I enter the notes one by one with the computer keyboard. Therefore, I couldn't care less about latency

I din't know ASIO had much to do with MIDI, but what I hate is the update time of the visuals (I always wondered why visuals are affected by sound-latency, anyway).

[PPH]

[..]Renoise is free, except for the "Render to WAV" feature. If you want to have that one, then you have to buy it.[...]

You forgot the missing ASIO support, which really made me stop trying it...

Well, I guess I forgot because it doesn't affect me. I don't use a MIDI controller, I enter the notes one by one with the computer keyboard. Therefore, I couldn't care less about latency

I din't know ASIO had much to do with MIDI, but what I hate is the update time of the visuals (I always wondered why visuals are affected by sound-latency, anyway).

What I mean is: you only need latency if you're playing in real time, because that's when latency matters. If I enter the notes one by one, editing the pattern, I shouldn't care about latency.

[DMNXS]

You're right about that, but I like low latencies during playback for the reason stated above. And I hate the playback delay. There should be some visual correction of the playback cursor to make high delays not so bad.

[PPH]

You're right about that, but I like low latencies during playback for the reason stated above. And I hate the playback delay. There should be some visual correction of the playback cursor to make high delays not so bad.

Oh, I get it now. It's not that the latency affects visuals: it's just that sound lateny is bigger than "visual latency".

[DMNXS]

You're right about that, but I like low latencies during playback for the reason stated above. And I hate the playback delay. There should be some visual correction of the playback cursor to make high delays not so bad.

Oh, I get it now. It's not that the latency affects visuals: it's just that sound lateny is bigger than "visual latency".

Actually, both .
Sometimes programs seem to link their visual update frequency to the sound latency. Say you have 100 (or 50) ms, then the program updates visuals with a frequency of 10 (or 20)Hz ... Get my drift ? Cause that's slow... and impossible to work with ...

[PPH]

You're right about that, but I like low latencies during playback for the reason stated above. And I hate the playback delay. There should be some visual correction of the playback cursor to make high delays not so bad.

Oh, I get it now. It's not that the latency affects visuals: it's just that sound lateny is bigger than "visual latency".

Actually, both .
Sometimes programs seem to link their visual update frequency to the sound latency. Say you have 100 (or 50) ms, then the program updates visuals with a frequency of 10 (or 20)Hz ... Get my drift ? Cause that's slow... and impossible to work with ...

Yeah, I get it.

[DNS]

hey pph,

hum...renoise sounds tempting, but i wont cross until i don´t see the need.
is renoise machine based and modular?

i have to solve some buzz issues (multiple vsti outs, opening midi files) and i´ll dig for a piano roll editor.(any tips anyone?) but if i do - great.

i like the win gui. it´s so bad and ugly - i love it. makes me think "i´m very hardcore, look at me"

it works somehow.

ps - thanks for the acoustic tips. i am using orchestration now periodically - it added nicely to my synth palette. sort of broadened my vocabulary.


peace

[DDspeed]

hey pph,

hum...renoise sounds tempting, but i wont cross until i don´t see the need.
is renoise machine based and modular?

Renoise is fully modular, but not machine-based like Buzz.

[DNS]

which makes it a bit poorer soundwise?

what does it use - vsti´s?

[PPH]

which makes it a bit poorer soundwise?

what does it use - vsti´s?

Yes, it uses VSTs. And there are many good VSTs out there. Of course, it's not compatible with Buzz Machines. There is, however, something called BuzzVST, which is a sort of VST version of Buzz. I never got it to work, but it could be an alternative. FruityLoops has an adapter for Buzz Machines too, if I'm not mistaken. And it has a piano roll, that seems to be something you're looking for.

[PPH]

Something I found. A whole orchestral library. Free.

http://theremin.music.uiowa.edu/MIS.html

[Anonymous]

oi!

this looks good.

will spare some cpu time if evetr want a orchestral instrument and no more cpu room for vsti.

great diggin.


hope others see this.

thanks

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